God: Three Questions

When it comes to a spiritual position, there are at least three major positions you can take. There are three metaphysical questions you can ask yourself. Each question, if you answer “no,” halts the process and defines your position.

The questioning continues so long as your answer is “yes.” As the questioning continues, you approach a more and more specific concept of “God(s).”

Basically, it’s a flow-chart that calculates your metaphysical point of view.

More importantly, it helps illustrate that spirituality is not limited to being strictly a theist or an atheist. It’s bigger than that. There are levels. And levels within levels.  I think it’s interesting to compare and contrast those levels. Do they have things in common? If so, might they be equivalent in some ways?

Part of what concerns me is the idea that a given mode of spirituality is somehow the One True mode. I find that idea repellent. It seems illogical that the Operator(s) of the Universe would specify a single set of rules and deny spiritual success to all not following those rules. It seems much more sensible that the Operator(s) of such a vast and varied Creation would be just as vast and varied spiritually.

As Mohandas Gandhi said, “Religions are different roads converging to the same point. What does it matter that we take different road, so long as we reach the same goal. Wherein is the cause for quarreling?”

As I’ve mentioned before, all spiritual systems seem to have in common the idea that how you live life matters, that there is such a thing as good and evil. Given that common central core, perhaps those fundamental things might be worthy of our consideration if not our focus and energy.

In any event, there are three big questions we can ask. The answers to these questions are not currently provable by logic or science. I suspect that the existence (or not) of God(s) transcends physics and cannot be answered by logic or science. Proving a negative, the absence of God(s), is tricky. Proving a negative is always tricky. But we may someday prove conclusively that the human mind universally creates God(s), and that will be very close to negative proof. And, of course, if we ever actually see God(s), that’ll be conclusive positive proof. You can prove a positive if what you seek is found!

But for now, the answers depend on how you believe reality works and are matters of faith.

Here are the questions:

  1. Is there a “metaphysical” reality at all (or is the physical all there is)?
  2. If there is a metaphysical reality, is it inhabited by a self-aware being or beings (or is it just a higher plane of reality or some sort of force)?
  3. If there are self-aware metaphysical inhabitants, do they interact with our physical reality and if so to what extent?

In other words:

  1. Is there anywhere for God to be?
  2. Is there anything that thinks, “I am God”?
  3. Is God (or are the Gods) concerned about us?

#1–Is there a metaphysical reality?

The world we know, all the matter and energy in the universe, is the physical reality. A metaphysical reality is somehow ‘beyond’ or ‘above’ that physical reality. It won’t be something we perceive under normal circumstances; it won’t follow the laws of physics. But to make it worth considering it must be accessible in some fashion that transcends our normal perceptions and physics.

It seems logical to assume that either it exists or it doesn’t. There seems to be no middle ground. The question divides viewpoints into two distinct camps: those who believe in a transcendent reality and those who believe in an existential reality. This is a crucial fork in the road; it’s where the believers and non-believers part ways.

If you decide there is no metaphysical reality, that’s it, no more metaphysical questions. The physical world is all there is. Humans—all life forms—are just machines that carry out the driving imperative of all life machines: perpetuate the DNA. We are nothing more than a very successful survival mechanism designed by a complex molecule. Life is nothing more than interesting chemistry.

Which is not to say there’s no majesty or mystery. That chemistry is extremely interesting, and there’s plenty of mystery! And one thing science teaches us is that some questions don’t have answers, no matter what. For example, the Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle puts a limit on how sharply defined the universe is. The Turing Halting Problem shows that computer algorithms cannot answer all questions. Reality is not algorithmic or specific; it’s chaotic and fuzzy.

If you doubt this, try to answer this simple question: what is the first real number after zero? The question has no answer (like the one about the sound of one hand clapping). No matter how many zeros you put in after the decimal point, there’s always room for one more.

So answering “no” to the first question still leaves lots of room for fun and thought. But a physical universe has no intrinsic meaning, which means life has no intrinsic meaning, which make it much harder to define a moral platform. Physics (and certainly chemistry) is interesting enough to get you out of bed each morning, but you have to try to forget that actually nothing you ever do will ever have any real meaning in the fullness of the universe.

On the other hand, if you believe there’s more to reality than physics, you can then ask yourself questions about what that meta-reality might be. Which brings us to the next question.

#2–Is there a God?

If there is a metaphysical reality of some sort, a natural next question might be whether there are metaphysical beings (or even just one). While it might be possible to accept the idea of a metaphysical reality of some sort, this question represents a jumping-off point for many. If the idea of a metaphysics is one giant leap, the idea of metaphysical entities is another.

According to most Christian religions, the metaphysical reality consists of a Heaven and a Hell (and for some a Limbo). Those places are inhabited by native beings (such as Angels or Demons) as well as the souls of former inhabitants of the physical reality. They are also inhabited by über-beings (God and Satan) who reign over their respective domains. And of course God is the Creator behind the whole thing; Satan is more of an acting CEO of his domain.

Other religions have different metaphysical realities and different beings, but most bear in common the formal idea of God(s) and of good versus evil. The details, customs and practices vary considerably, but all these have answered the first two questions with a “yes!”

But it is possible to believe in a spiritual metaphysics without believing in God(s). Buddhism, for example, is a metaphysical belief system that lacks a God (although it does have Devas and other metaphysical beings). And as with most successful religions, Buddhism has its variants. Some versions of it approach the idea of a metaphysical universe that just runs like a giant machine. (And, in fact, Buddhism does contain a giant wheel!)

Another example of a metaphysics without a Deity is “the Force” from the Star Wars movies. And even the Force, with its Good Side and Dark Side, embodies the idea of Good and Evil–that one characteristic so common in spiritual metaphysics. Many people who have a basically unstructured view of spirituality believe in something along the lines of the Force (or in some very stripped down version of Buddhism). The central view here is that we are all connected, are all morally equal, and that life matters for reasons beyond the physics.

There are other view that see a metaphysical reality, but see little or no spiritual element. There is the Platonic idea that reality is the imperfect expression of an underlying perfect mathematics. Math seems to describe reality in such eerily accurate ways that it begs the question of which is more real: the math or the reality. There is no such thing in real life as a perfect circle, but they are trivial in math. That physical reality lacks infinity and infinite points suggests a transcendence in math.

Or, perhaps, as in The Matrix, we’re all part of some sophisticated computer simulation. When we die we just wake up in the real reality (where once again we can ask the same three questions!). To make the simulation work, of course we are not allowed to know we’re part of a simulation. A more cruel version of this, like the Platonic idea, suggests we’re nothing more than algorithms running in a vast program, and we are no more real than is the answer to 2 + 2.

The point is not to assume that a metaphysical reality necessarily involves the God(s) of any religion or any God at all. This second question draws the distinction between the idea of a metaphysics and the idea of God(s). Those who believe in a purely physical universe got off at level one. Those who believe in a Deity-free metaphysical universe get off here at level two.

Which brings us to the third, most fantastic, question.

#3–Does God care about us?

For many, this may be the hardest question to answer with a “Yes.” It seems pretty easy (at least to me) to believe a metaphysics is possible (even likely). And it seems fantastic, but at least possible, that there could be a supernatural will behind existence. At the same time, I do understand the strong psychological reasons to assign that to wishful thinking. I will say that, for me, the probability seems vanishingly small, but is still non-zero, so I try to keep an open mind.

There is a sub-distinction we can make. Deists believe the universe was created with purpose and meaning by God(s). Theists go a step further in the belief that our daily lives are of interest to God(s). Theists believe that prayers are heard and acted upon, whereas deists believe prayer is only an exercise in meditation (which can certainly be of value to the one who prays, if not to anyone else).

I, for the most part, am a deist with strong agnostic leanings and the occasional dash of theist (which may well have more to do with my upbringing than reality).

The idea of a God that is concerned with our day-to-day lives seems beyond the fantastic. Yet this is exactly what many big religions say. That God is so powerful and omniscient as to be involved directly with our daily lives. Such a God hears prayer (and apparently frequently says “no”). Such a God seems to have such a vast and sweeping plan that considerable pain and misery is necessary to achieve the plan. Apparently, as in many movies, it all turns out all for the good in the end (at least for some).

The psychological reasons to consign God(s) to wishful thinking really kick in here. To the extent the universe is, or seems to be, blind and uncaring, even cruel, it is easy to see why the human mind would want to believe in a supernatural being with a master plan. It is easy to see why we so desperately want and need to be connected to something that is concerned about us.

The thing is there have been many times in my life when one explanation of events is that “God took care of me.” On the other hand, “coincidence” and “luck” are also possible explanations. So is the idea that life isn’t as bad for most people as the news and horror stories make it seem, and we all muddle through somehow. The thing that has intrigued me in my life is the nature and frequency of these “coincidences.”  It seems almost preposterous that it could be so, but until I see some proof one way or the other, I’m willing to leave it as an open question.  It would be illogical and unscientific to consider the matter settled.

In any event, as with all these questions, the answer is up to you to decide! Does God watch you, listen to you, adjust life for you in any way? If you say definitely not, then you get off here on the third level. You’ve climbed to the metaphysical level and further to a deist level, but this is your stopping point.

Which leaves the top level for Theists who’ve piled belief upon belief upon belief. And while it’s not an impossible proposition, it does require great faith. And if nothing else, perhaps that faith turns out to be important in the greater scheme of things.

I leave you with a final, question that applies to all levels:

#0–Is Your Faith Exclusive?

Given that any position you take and hold as true involves an element of faith, a reasonable question is whether your faith is the only correct view.

If you are hard-core atheist, are you absolutely convinced you are correct, or do you understand your view to be a matter of faith. Granted, science is consistent across time and space, but much is unexplained (and unexplainable). Do you leave room to doubt?

Likewise, if you believe in a spiritual path, do you see it as but one path up the mountain, or do you see it as the one true path. Are those on a similar journey up the same mountain, but who take a different path your kin or your enemies?

About Wyrd Smythe

The canonical fool on the hill watching the sunset and the rotation of the planet and thinking what he imagines are large thoughts. View all posts by Wyrd Smythe

11 responses to “God: Three Questions

  • Athywren

    1) I don’t know…. maybe? How could we tell? I doubt it, but maybe.
    It’s certainly worth acting as if the physical is all there is, since it’s all we can currently be sure of.
    As for meaning… I don’t need my life to mean anything to the universe, it means something to me, to my family and to my friends and that’s good enough for me.
    Morality? You try not to make my life harder and I’ll try not to make yours harder. If we get good at that, maybe we could try to make each other’s lives easier? If I ever do make your life harder, I assure you it wasn’t intentional and I’ll try to make it up to you.

    2) I don’t know…. maybe? Even if we could tell that there was a metaphysical plane, how could we tell if it was inhabited by anything sentient? Would such a creature be a god, or would it be like us, a little bigger, smarter, stronger, faster, but just as lost, overwhelmed by the universe, investigating as it could, wondering if perhaps there is a hypermetaphysical reality beyond their own and if, perhaps, there are gods there?

    3) I doubt it…. maybe in the way that we care about whales and kittens? But we’re more likely to look like ants or bacteria than kittens if we’re being watched from some meta level. But…. maybe?

    0) Hardcore atheist… but hopefully my previous answers have answered this one? There is no room for doubt that there may possibly be some kind of metaphysical reality, perhaps? 😛

    • Wyrd Smythe

      Thank you for dropping by and contributing!

      If the physical is all there is, what about love and justice? They are not physical, but I think we’re all glad to live in a world that treats them as somehow real. Where do they come from?

      Your morality sounds like a good one to me, but what if my morality was more along the lines of “all your base are belong to us!” If I wanted to try to take it all; what is the *logical* basis for saying it’s “wrong”? You can’t appeal to the animal kingdom (let alone physics); survival of the fittest is a key element there.

      True about intermediate gods, if such existed. In Carl Sagan’s Contact novel, we meet highly advanced (god-like) aliens, and they are, as you say, wondering about the next level. As the saying goes, “It’s turtles all the way down.”

  • d.c.b.

    Have you seen “The Adjustment Bureau”
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Adjustment_Bureau

    It’s an interesting take on this topic at level 3.

    • Wyrd Smythe

      I’ve seen and enjoyed The Adjustment Bureau! I agree, it’s an interesting take on the idea that all this is “run” by some agency or will. A very Philip K. Dick take on things! I’m sure you know he’s behind Blade Runner.

      Did you know he’s also behind Total Recall, Minority Report (Tom Cruise, a Spielberg film) and Paycheck (with Ben Affleck, a John Woo film). A few others besides… he’s had almost as many movies made from his work as Stephen King or Elmore Leonard!

  • It's only P!

    Just for all the time you invested in writing this post, I’ve clicked Liked, but I also really did like it. If only more people would be magnanimous when it comes to religion.

  • cafeproz

    Sorry way after fact (post post?), anyhow, nice article. Sadly, I can’t even answer the first question. No idea. I understand the possibility, the problem is that I can easily see how how the ideas we have about such a world could be borne out of our tendency/need to systemize our ideas, and anthropomorphize things/beings.

    Religions and spirituality seem to be rather practical and boil down to: How to live (in every dimension). I don’t see that as being particularly metaphysical. That is why I would have such a hard time even with #1.
    Am I right though? is the main by product of spirituality just a blueprint for how live one’s life (understand one’s life etc…)?

    That said, I was thinking just this week that if God is very much interested in our very mundane everyday life… is Satan too (or does he/she take a break)? In the former case, God’s attention would not seem any worthier than Satan’s.

    BTW: love the blog name

    • Wyrd Smythe

      Thanks for dropping by and commenting; discussion is always welcome!

      Keep in mind that these are belief-based questions that each of us must answer for ourselves based on our perceptions of reality. So far there is no way to answer them factually, as there is no proof one way or the other on any of them. As I said in the article, the first one isn’t a huge leap, but by the time you get to the third you have built a fairly large belief structure. That’s really a key point of the article: by the time you get to a belief in a God who is directly active in your life, you’re making a number of fundamental (pun, perhaps, intended) assumptions.

      I would say that spirituality is far more than a practical matter, but deals with our apprehension of the infinite. It may well turn out to be nothing more than our minds’ quest to make sense of a purely materialistic universe, or it may turn out we’ve all been sensing something real. The article addresses how there are a number of levels to what we might all be sensing.

      If these topics are of interest (and from your blog it appears they are), I would recommend some reading on comparative religions and philosophy. The Christian idea of God/Satan is just one manifestation of how societies have approached spirituality. There are many other takes on the subject. You might also find it valuable to look into how various Deistic approaches compare to Theistic ones.

      And thanks for the compliment; I spent several hours pondering what to call this. When “Logos con carne” finally popped into my head, I knew I’d found what I wanted!

      • cafeproz

        Understood… (bit about Satan was more in Jest than anything)

        You mentioned ” spirituality is far more than a practical matter, but deals with our apprehension of the infinite.”

        My tendency in general is to look a series of outcomes and infer purpose (and maybe substance). In looking at the real (non metaphysical) effect of spiritual search/approaches, do you think we have enough data as to infer an ultimate purpose to spirituality as function in the universe of human life?

        Turns out somebody just blogged about research on a very related subject and I found it rather telling
        http://evoanth.wordpress.com/2012/08/16/ho-god-evolved/

      • Wyrd Smythe

        Interesting blog; I’ll have to check it out when I have more time! The article you linked touches on exactly what makes spirituality so interesting. So much of it can be explained through social forces. Clearly we’d love to believe that our miniscule brief life somehow matters (what is 100 years compared to the 13+ billion year age of the universe; what is the Earth compared to the vastness of just this galaxy, let alone a billion others?).

        To answer your question, it may turn out that spirituality and faith are (nothing more than) necessary evolutionary tools that prevent us from all just slitting our wrists and which help us build community. But what makes it so interesting to me is the universality of those ideas as well as the few common elements they share.

        Maybe we’re alone in the dark and just whistling. But maybe not. Perhaps the only time that question gets answered is when we do finally move on to the next stage.

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