SR #X1: Starting and Stopping in the Twins Paradox

passing spaceshipThis is an eXtra post in the Special Relativity series. It explores a sub-topic in detail that may not be of interest to most readers — either the detail or the sub-topic itself. The purpose of the post is to pre-answer, or serve as a reference for, obvious questions that the technically astute might ask (often questions I once asked).

This article is about the acceleration and deceleration that seems required in the Twins Paradox illustration. Some even refuse to accept the illustration as valid under the belief that changing speed significantly alters the picture.

Here I try to show how we can completely ignore it.

Sometimes when discussing the Twins Paradox in Special Relativity the question comes up: What about the acceleration and deceleration involved when Em stops or turns around? Doesn’t that throw it all into a cocked hat? Doesn’t that mean what you’re saying is all a load of bullocks?

No. It doesn’t.

You could just take my word for it and stop reading now.

Twins Paradox

There and back again.

Skeptic, eh? Okay, fine, no problem; I’m one myself.

The usual answer is that we can always make the trip long enough — and the required acceleration[1] short enough — that any effects can be ignored as being too small to matter.

That’s a perfectly valid answer, and it works, so you can stop reading now.

Need more, eh? That’s fine, consider this:

If Em is a robot, she can survive crushing acceleration, so we can not only make the trip long, but make the acceleration extremely brief. Now it comes even closer to being “instantly” moving from one frame to another.

As a robot, Em can be very small and light, which makes extreme acceleration even easier.

But I can see it in your eyes; I thought the same thing. It doesn’t matter how small the time of acceleration is, the point is there is acceleration. Doesn’t that somehow make a difference?

No. It doesn’t. Honestly.

It seems like it might, and there probably is some small difference as Em switches from a motionless frame to a moving one (or vice versa). But while it might change the numbers ever so slightly, it doesn’t change what’s happening.

We can show this with a situation that doesn’t require spaceships changing speed, but it does require imagining something that — so far — is science fiction. It may remain science fiction for all I know, but also may become a reality — there’s no physics that says it’s impossible.

mind upload

I’m off to planet Noether!

What we need to imagine is that our minds can live in computers.

These days that doesn’t seem like a huge stretch, and many firmly believe it’s just a matter of time before we achieve it.

For Em to begin her journey, imagine that her mind is in a computer on Earth. Along comes a passing spaceship, already moving at 0.5 c.

As it passes, Em beams her data-self over to the passing ship. Transmission is arranged such that, once complete, Em’s consciousness switches over at a given instant. She instantly changes frames of reference without experiencing acceleration from one to the other.

She transfers her mind down to Noether as the ship passes (without stopping) that planet. She repeats the process to return home by catching a “ride” on a spaceship already passing the other way.

Planet Noether

Planet Noether

In fact, given the ability to “run” a mind “app” on a computer, there’s no reason Em has to switch off her Earth copy after she transfers to the passing ship. After all, she only sends a copy to the ship. The original on Earth can keep on going.

That gives Em the ability to do the Twins Paradox all by herself!

When her copy returns, it will have experienced 23.8 years of existence, whereas Em’s original Earth copy will have experienced 27.

Reader/blogger Mike Smith took acceleration even further out of the picture with a scenario involving multiple parties all staying in their own frames of reference but exchanging messages as they pass. His scenario uses three actors to illustrate essentially the Simultaneous Lightning Strikes scenario (or the Train Too Long one).

We can do the same with the Twins Paradox using four actors. We need one on each planet, and one in each spaceship (outbound and inbound). It’s possible with three if the one in the spaceship turns around — which we ignore — and becomes the returning party.

Max passes

Hi Max! Bye Max!

So if Al is on Earth, and Em is on Noether, we can imagine Max come flying past at whatever fraction of light speed. First Max passes Earth, where he and Al exchange timestamps. Then, later, Max passes Noether and does the same with Em.

Max can turn around, or some other passing party — say Liz — can exchange timestamps while passing Em at speed headed for Earth and then, later, fly past Al on Earth.

And what they’ll find is that the time dilation works just as advertised in Special Relativity. When this is done with four actors, no one changes speed at all!

So, no. It doesn’t matter that there’s some acceleration involved.

It can be merely ignored or narrated out of existence. It has nothing to do with what happens.

That Em goes from a moving frame to a not moving frame (or vice versa) has everything to do with what happens!

Jackie Robinson

Special Relativity aside, today isn’t only tax day in the USA, it’s Jackie Robinson Day at the ballparks! Players on teams everywhere wear #42 today in honor of the first black professional Major League baseball player.

[1] This is a technical-y note for technical-ish people. Can I stop saying “acceleration and deceleration” please? Same thing modulo a sign, and I always get tripped up thinking “deccceleration” has more ‘c’s.

About Wyrd Smythe

The canonical fool on the hill watching the sunset and the rotation of the planet and thinking what he imagines are large thoughts. View all posts by Wyrd Smythe

2 responses to “SR #X1: Starting and Stopping in the Twins Paradox

  • Sam

    Hello…. just a curious amator passing by. In your example, the fact that a ship already has 0.5 c , when passing by earth, implies that it has accelerated (or decelerated) compared to earth before that.

    Didn’t you just postpone the “acceleration question” without solving it ?

    Also, once the rocket-twin jumps in his new frame of reference, why is he prefered to the earth-twin since acceleration has nothing to do with time dilation ? Should not it be symetrical ?

    Thanks in advance for the answer.

    • Wyrd Smythe

      “Didn’t you just postpone the ‘acceleration question’ without solving it ?”

      No, because there’s nothing that needs solving. That the ship at some early point accelerated doesn’t mean anything by the time it passes Earth at a constant velocity. Calculating the gamma for that acceleration would require GR to solve, but once the speed is constant, so is the gamma.

      “Also, once the rocket-twin jumps in his new frame of reference, why is he prefered to the earth-twin since acceleration has nothing to do with time dilation ? Should not it be symetrical ?”

      The ship twin’s velocity relative to his or her own frame of reference changes. The Earth twin’s velocity remains constant throughout.

      On either the outward or inward leg of the journey, the situation is symmetrical. But the traveling twin makes three changes in frame of reference: [1] Earth to outbound; [2] outbound to inbound; [3] inbound to Earth. Each change alters the situation.

      (This is a sidebar post intended show how acceleration has nothing to do with the Twins paradox. The paradox itself is discussed in greater detail in the main post, It’s Twins!)

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